How long should a 800 take in track?

The 800 meter race is a common track running event. It is the shortest common middle distance track event. The 800 meters is run over two laps of the track (400 meter track) and has always been an Olympic event. During indoor track season the event is usually run on a 200 meter track, therefore requiring four laps. 800 m is almost exactly half a mile.

The event combines aerobic endurance with anaerobic conditioning and sprint speed. Both the aerobic and anaerobic systems are being taxed to a high extent, thus the 800 meter athlete is required to combine training between both systems.  

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You want to build an aerobic base, but at the same time you need speed and acceleration development, speed endurance, lactate tolerance, and most of all, RECOVERY from workouts.  It’s no fun doing a 10x400m workout (with short recovery!) when your legs feel like they are stuck in cement blocks.  Or getting a stress fracture.

The other thing to consider when doing mileage is the speed of the runs and in particular, the long runs.  Tempo or Steady state?  Recovery miles?  Garbage miles to brag write down in your log book to please your coach (or ego)?

As well, too much mileage can be detrimental.  You want to maintain your fast twitch fibers and too much (garbage) slow LSD (long slow distance) miles will make you more of a slow twitch marathoner, which isn’t a bad thing if you want to be a marathoner.  However, the Lydiard camp will probably disagree on this statement as he has proven his training methods to produce world class middle distance runners (the name Peter Snell should ring a bell.. if not, use Google)

Along with speed, how about heart rate, which is really a reflection on intensity, and therefore speed?  Rich folks like my buddy Mike can afford a Garmin GPS and heart rate combo watch.

Back to Basics

It all boils down to 3 factors:

First, look at the Physiology of the event (100-140 seconds) say from a 1:40 to a 2:20 time for 800 meters.   David Rudisha runs 1:42 while a good High School female runs 2:10.

What is the purpose of each workout?  How much recovery is enough between workouts?  It’s like coming up with the right formula for gun powder.  It’s only 3 ingredients in 6 parts: potassium nitrate, sulfur, and carbon.  The chemical structure is 2 KNO3 + S + 3 C.  Once you get the formula down pact, rinse and repeat and have a blast.

You’ve seen this infamous chart before (and the endless variances) in numerous exercise physiology textbooks:

How long should a 800 take in track?
How long should a 800 take in track?

Clyde Hart believes the 400m is really 50-50, but we’ll save that discussion for another day.

So the 800 meters needs some aerobic component which can be obtained from quality track workouts with short recovery.

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There’s no doubt in my mind you need some speed.  To quote John Smith, “You can’t have a Donkey winning the Kentucky Derby”.

If your PB for 200m with blocks is 30 seconds, you’ll be hard pressed to break 2:00 for the 800 meters.  No one is that strong (relatively), not even Butch Reynolds.  If your PR is 25 seconds, well, that’s a different matter, and 2:00 is very realistic.  No amount of aerobic training will make you faster.

800 meter training:  The Mileage

I’m a firm believer in keeping my hard workouts hard and my easy workouts easy.  Sounds simple enough.

BUT you can have back to back hard workouts as long as they don’t conflict in energy systems.  For example, you don’t do 2 speed sessions back to back, but you can do a speed session one day, followed the next day with a different type of workout (preferably a low CNS workload, which is already trashed from the speed workout)

The 400m training principles are easy. There are only 2 ways to train a quarter-miler: Short to Long  and Long to Short.  Weight room workouts and circuit training will vary from coach to coach.

But the 800m has a mixed bag of training methodology, and I’ll cover them later in a series of articles.

Like all annual training plans, your volume (including mileage) will vary depending on the time of the season (GPP phase, pre-competition, competition, etc).

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So, How much mileage should an 800 meter runner run?

First, I don’t like to use distance as a 5K for an Elite male is different for a Juvenile (JD) 15 year old female.

I like to base running workouts on time.  20 min runs means 20 minutes.  Simple enough to follow.

Mileage will come in all forms and intensities (see next section below) including track workouts, but don’t be surprised to see 70-80 miles per week in world class elite athletes with doses of 100 mile weeks in the base period.  Developing athletes can see anywhere from 30-50 miles per week.

But let’s not get hung up on a certain number.  There is no magic number or minimum.  This isn’t a SAT or GMAT exam.

However, there is a one time I like to keep track of mileage and that’s keeping track of your mileage in your running shoes.  Try to get new shoes every 400-500 miles and recycle your old pairs.  The number will vary depending on your weight, running surface, and the type of running shoes.  It helps to have a sponsor with unlimited shoes, no doubt.  The soles may look new but the inside padding will lose its effeteness long before substantial wear on the soles.

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Speed or Intensity

In terms of mileage. there’s a lot of jargon out there, but ideally there should be 5 training zones for runs over 10 minutes:

  1. warm up run & post workout recovery run (or “cool down”)
  2. long run
  3. easy run
  4. steady state run
  5. tempo run

Again, these numbers are only guidelines an if your athlete is “dogging it” on the runs, there may be an underlying problem such as injuries, burnout, or simply “over training”.

Warm Up/Cool Down

I’ll use a 2:00 male 800 meter runner in this example.  Athletes of this caliber usually run at a pace of 7:15 to 7:45 min/mile (4:30 – 4:50 min/km) excluding the first 5-8 minutes of the warm-up where it’s simply jogging.

20 minutes is typical for each of these runs, pre and post.  Personally, I don’t care how long the warm-up run is, as long as they are ready to run when the track workout begins.  If they feel they need 20 minutes, so be it.

Long Run

Usually on the weekend.  6:15 – 7:15 pace (3:50 to 4:30 min per km).  I recommend starting out with 30 minutes of trail running for young athletes and build up to 60 minutes throughout their career.  If you have a 6 mile or 10 km loop around a park or lake, then that is an ideal goal to begin with.  Just avoid the roads and keep the surface soft.

As well, I like to keep the social aspect of a team, so having a group is great.  These speeds are slow enough to maintain a conversation and chatter.  But some athletes prefer to do this first thing in the morning so they can get on with their day.

So a Saturday 9am workout is ideal, followed by a post-workout brunch… of course!

Easy Run

Usually the AM is a solo workout.  You want to get this out of the way as fast as possible to get on with your day, as well as allow as much recovery time before the PM workout.  How many days a week is another story.  6:15 – 6:45 pace (3:50 to 4:10 min per km).  20 minutes is the norm and aiming up to 30 minutes throughout their career for elite runners.  Again, look for a soft surface (i.e. non-concrete or non-asphalt) such as a park, trail or golf course if possible.

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I would start off with EITHER an easy run the morning of the hard track  workout (with a nap if possible) OR the day after the hard workout.  2 or 3 morning runs per week plus a long run is plenty.

At airports with long layovers between flights, I’ve seen athletes do easy runs which is great to get the blood flowing and prevent venous pooling from a prolonged sitting position.  I personally like to stretch and do a few planks in-between flights.  I sure get strange looks, though.

Steady Sate and Tempo Runs

I’m not a big fan of steady state runs, at least for 800m runners, as I feel they benefit more for track workouts.  But on odd days when the weather is crap, or have no access to a track, and other reasons (such as travel) beyond your control, then yes, Steady Sate and Tempo Runs are great workouts, at least psychologically.

5:25 to 5:35 for Steady Sate and 5:10 to 5:20 for tempo (3:20 – 3:30 and 3:15 to 3:25 min/km respectively)

Tempo is defined as lactate threshold, and Steady Sate is defined as a pace you can maintain of 30-60 minutes.

Tempo Strides – Not to be confused with Tempo runs

For the “non track days” or easy days, I suggest doing 2000-3000 meters of “tempo running” which is simply strides at about 70-75% of max speed with short recovery on a grass surface.  Some people call these “turnarounds” or “greyhounds”.  Run 100m, slow down, stop, turnaround, then run 100m.  Aim for 2000m so that’s 20x100m or  10x200m or  7x300m.

Adding Up the Mileage

If you add up the mileage using a 7 minute per mile as an average, you can clearly see how 50 miles a week is easy to obtain.  20 minute morning run, 20 min warm-up, 20 min cool down recovery run, 30-60 Saturday long run.  Plus add the quality track workouts with short recovery 3 times a week, and the tempo strides at 75% speed (on grass) the other 2 days a week.  That’s a lot of miles.

As expected, I have purposely left out the the number you should strive for, because the magic number for mileage varies from person to person.

The only number that really matters is the stopwatch after your 800 meters.  The second most important number is your 400m split.

What is a good 800 track time?

300m / 800m Sprint Test.

How long should a 800 meter run take?

800-meter Run Test.

How long is the 800 in track?

800 meters: roughly ½ mile or 2 laps around the track. 1600 meters: roughly 1 mile or 4 laps around the track.

How long should a long run be for 800m runner?

A Type 1 800 meter runner needs a weekly long run of at least 50 minutes which would correlate with their volume of about 35 miles each week.