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If, when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic.

And be careful not to brand him as an alcoholic.


If he sticks to the idea that he can still control his drinking, tell him that possibly he can -- if he is not too alcoholic.


You will soon have your friend admitting he has many, if not all, of the traits of the alcoholic.


Some of us still serve it to our friends provided they are not alcoholic.

He would probably be insulted if he were called an alcoholic.


These are the earmarks of a real alcoholic.

As to them, his policy is undoubtedly sound, but he did not distinguish between such people and the alcoholic.

To the doubters we could say, "Perhaps you're not an alcoholic after all.


Never once in my life have I had a headache, which fact leads me to believe that I was an alcoholic almost from the start.

We have seen the truth demonstrated again and again: "Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic."

(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.

In one of these there is a well-known hospital for the treatment of alcoholic and drug addiction.

They grinned, which I didn't like so much, and then asked me if I thought myself alcoholic and if I were really licked this time.


He agreed he was a real alcoholic and in a serious condition.

We hope we have made clear the distinction between the alcoholic and the non-alcoholic.

The man in the bed was told of the acute poisoning from which he suffered, how it deteriorates the body of an alcoholic and warps his mind.

He knows the alcoholic as the employer sees him.


If you are as seriously alcoholic as we were, we believe there is no middle-of-the-road solution.

If you are satisfied that he is a real alcoholic, begin to dwell on the hopeless feature of the malady.

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  ... alcoholic, could certainly be given a long-term ...  12&12 Step Six, p.69

Why not bring him into contact with some of our alcoholic crowd?

Though an alcoholic does not respond, there is no reason why you should neglect his family.

We suggest that you direct some of your thought to the wives of his new alcoholic friends.


I now remembered what my alcoholic friends had told me, how they prophesied that if I had an alcoholic mind, the time and place would come -- I would drink again.

It was then discovered that when one alcoholic had planted in the mind of another the true nature of his malady, that person could never be the same again.


We do not like the thought that the contents of a book or the work of another alcoholic has accomplished in a few weeks that for which we struggled for years.

To him the alcoholic has often seemed a fool of the first magnitude.

We won't be biased or scared off by that fact, because although he was not an alcoholic he did, like us, go through the emotional wringer.

If he is alcoholic, he will understand you at once.


If we hired an alcoholic, he'd receive only what we'd have to pay a nonalcoholic for the same job.

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  ... alcoholic housewife can also make the family ...  12&12 Step Four, p.51


These are some of the questions which race through the mind of every woman who has an alcoholic husband.


Try not to condemn your alcoholic husband no matter what he says or does.


The doctor said: "You have the mind of a chronic alcoholic. I have never seen one single case recover, where that state of mind existed to the extent that it does in you."


But not so with the alcoholic illness, for with it there goes annihilation of all the things worth while in life.


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  ... alcoholic illness, we might have behaved differently.  BB To Wives, p.107

An alcoholic in his cups is an unlovely creature.

Rumor had it that he had been committed for alcoholic insanity.


But if you are shaky, you had better work with another alcoholic instead!


Any alcoholic is a member of A.A. when he says so.

Many do not comprehend that the alcoholic is a very sick person.

That he has not always done so for the alcoholic is easily understood.

In this statement he confirms what we who have suffered alcoholic torture must believe -- that the body of the alcoholic is quite as abnormal as his mind.

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  ... alcoholic lapses or emotional binges than A.A.'s ...  12&12 Step Three, p.38


More than most people, the alcoholic leads a double life.


To them, their alcoholic life seems the only normal one.

The alcoholic may say to himself in the most casual way, "It won't burn me this time, so here's how!"


Whether the family goes on a spiritual basis or not, the alcoholic member has to if he would recover.

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  ... alcoholic men and women to recovery, there ...  BB Preface, p.xi

We are much more afraid of what people might say than the trouble this strange alcoholic might bring.


I knew from that moment that I had an alcoholic mind.


I now remembered what my alcoholic friends had told me, how they prophesied that if I had an alcoholic mind, the time and place would come -- I would drink again.


An alcoholic who cannot meet them, still has an alcoholic mind; there is something the matter with his spiritual status.

What irony -- I became an alcoholic myself!

An alcoholic of this temperament may be quick to use this chapter as a club over your head.

For example, we know of situations in which the alcoholic or his wife have had love affairs.


They see in them a way to happy and effective living for many, alcoholic or not.

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  ... alcoholic's point of view, the spiritual ideas ...  12&12 Foreword, p.17


This may lay the groundwork for a friendly talk about his alcoholic problem.


I don't see how you can be of any help to us for, as you see, we don't have any alcoholic problem."

His alcoholic problem was so complex, and his depression so great, that we felt his only hope would be through what we then called "moral psychology," and we doubted if even that would have any effect.


His alcoholic problem was taken away.

He need not, and often should not show it to his alcoholic prospect.

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  ... alcoholic readers and proved to them that ...  12&12 Foreword, p.17

Some of our alcoholic readers may think they can do without spiritual help.

Sometimes we hear an alcoholic say that the only thing he needs to do is to keep sober.


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  ... alcoholic, self-centered in the extreme, doesn't care ...  12&12 Step One, p.24

If his own doctor is willing to tell him that he is alcoholic, so much the better.


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  ... alcoholic, soberly analyzing his destructive behavior, whether ...  12&12 Step Two, p.33

The tragic truth is that if the man be a real alcoholic, the happy day may not arrive.

When dealing with an alcoholic, there may be a natural annoyance that a man could be so weak, stupid and irresponsible.


To a person who has had experience with an alcoholic, this may seem like tempting Providence, but it isn't.

We seldom allow an alcoholic to live in our homes for long at a time.

In this statement he confirms what we who have suffered alcoholic torture must believe -- that the body of the alcoholic is quite as abnormal as his mind.

That alcoholic turned out to be the Akron physician.

If he is lukewarm or thinks he is not an alcoholic, we suggest you leave him alone.

An alcoholic who cannot meet them, still has an alcoholic mind; there is something the matter with his spiritual status.

Many an alcoholic who entered there came away with an answer.

The only thing that matters is that he is an alcoholic who has found a key to sobriety.

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  ... alcoholic who is still drinking can dream ...  12&12 Step One, p.24

Almost from the beginning, we have been positive that face-to-face work with the alcoholic who suffers could be based only on the desire to help and be helped.


If you are an alcoholic who wants to get over it, you may already be asking -- "What do I have to do?"

We would like it understood that our alcoholic work is an avocation.

If you are an alcoholic, you are a mighty sick man.

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What does the Big Book say about the real alcoholic?

If you are satisfied that he is a real alcoholic, begin to dwell on the hopeless feature of the malady. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. The tragic truth is that if the man be a real alcoholic, the happy day may not arrive.

How does AA define alcoholism?

In general, an alcoholic is someone who suffers from alcoholism. Alcoholics Anonymous defines this as “a physical compulsion, coupled with a mental obsession to consume alcohol,”in which cravings for alcohol are always catered to, even at times when they should not be.

Where in the Big Book does it talk about the real alcoholic?

The Big Book discusses three distinctly different types of drinkers on page 20 and 21: the moderate drinker, the hard drinker, and the real alcoholic. I suppose that I was once a moderate drinker, because in my early drinking days, I could “take it or leave it alone” (p. 20).

Who wrote me an alcoholic in the Big Book?

This story is familiar to many, as it was printed in the Second, Third, and Fourth Editions of “Alcoholics Anonymous”. Unfortunately, the author of this story is unknown.