What is a Savage Model 110 E?

my dad bought this gun several years back. it had a bad scope on it that drew blood on me twice lol. and it was heavy as crap so we dropped the wood stock for an aftermarket polymer one. sounds like from what ive been reading that that helps a ton. i havent fired the weapon since the new scope and the new stock went on it. tell me whatcha know about this weapon since i cant find alot of info about it. i would like to use it for urban sniping. i will be taking swat courses soon and then sniper school after that. i woul dliek to setup this weapon to use if at all possible. i would like to have a heavy barrel put on it, but yall lemme knwo what i would need to do to get it up to par. i will not be offended as i am new to the sport but not new to shooting

Henry

blazinlowv8 on aim

Youll learn evrything you need to know about 'urban sniping' from the SWAT team and sniper school. You should ask them about it if your sole intent is 'urban sniping'.

It sound like you have something good to work with. Savage makes a good rifle that can be built on. And you have the right idea on the setup for it. The only part you might want to think about if it is going to used for urban sniping you have to consider the over penetration factor(7mm Rem Mag packs some punch). Then again if you use the correct ammo/load for what you are doing it should be alright.

thats exactly what i was thinking was the issue with overpenetration. i was wondering how easily these could be converted.

Henry

and you have to have a rifle setup for long range shooting when you go to the school, they do not provide one. it will be used for long range shooting as well, i would just like to start with a rifle that i already have

Henry,
I've owned a Savage 110E in .30-06 for over 20yrs, and it's been my primary hunting rifle for that time. They're extremely accurate for a sporter weight rifle, and I've never failed to make heart shots on deer out to 300-350 yds. Because of the light, sporter weight it DOES kick like a mule! ( You think it's heavy now, wait till you put a heavy barrel on it!) This is my FAVORITE rifle, and because it's my favorite I had it turned into a long-range rig.
My advice to you would be to keep it as it is, since you've already spent the money for an aftermarket stock. The stock would have to be changed again, as it won't fit a heavy barrel that you'll need for long range. Since everything on the rifle will be scrapped except the action, and you're builder can pick up a Stevens action for about $200( The Stevens action is a exact replacement for the old, pre-AccuTrigger Savage, built by Savage). So turning what you have into a long-range rig will be losing money on your part. I regret going the route I did with mine. Talk to mlammers here on this site, he builds some awesome Savages, at a great price.
Since the Savage 110 is a long action, you can pretty much forget it for urban sniping. And your local dept ( when, and if, they hire you) may not allow personal firearms as duty weapons. If you want to be a SWAT sniper, take the classes, go to school, get hired on. Until then, have yourself a long-range rig built by a reputable gunsmith and PRACTICE!!!( paper targets only!) :wink:

lol yeah thats the plan is getting the rig setup for practice. but again as i said you have to have a rifle setup to go through the class. im fine with it being heavier,, the reason is because it was being used as a reg hunting weapon.

97ss150 said:

i would like to use it for urban sniping. i will be taking swat courses soon and then sniper school after that.

So are you LE, Military, or a decided Civvy?

-snowy

Here is a pic of the kids, my .30-06 Savage 110 is the green thing in the middle. I opted for a choat stock and a factory savage heavy barrel. It is a "dang" fine gun, now I just have to learn to shoot it as good as the others!.

97SS, In my, opinion if you can tame the .30-06(a guess since most were) , when you step down to .308 for work, you will be a master!. I got the barrel thru savages step down company that has all parts for the older rifles, it was about $200.00 and totally tamed the gun.

97ss150 said:

i am a law enforcement officer

For what department?

the big town of blu emound right now, but looking to get into a bigger place that has the tax dollars to pay. i love my city but i just need more money, same ole story huh

henry

Savage 110

I recently bought a used one in .308 at a gun show for 425. It was solid rust but, I figured at worst I would have to put a barrel and a firing pin on it. Once I cleaned it up and took it to the range and discovered that I came out on top with this deal. It shot 2 3 shot sub-MOA groups in a row at 100 yards so I backed it out to 300 and set up 3 milk jugs. I hit all three and then taped a Gatorade cap to a pole just to see if i hit it and it nailed it on the first shot with an old Bushnell banner 4-12 power scope. In my not even close to professional opinion it is a great rifle. She is soon to be sand blasted and re blued with new falcon menace 4.5-18x56mm, burris tactical rings, warne 1 piece base, and a B&C Medalist tactical stock on the way.

110E

I have done a great deal of long range shooting, and while I am not a LEO sharpshooter, I would not entertain using this rifle for urban sniping. I would tend to use a Rem 700, Win 70, or McMillan action. The remington can be built to sniper standards with around 2500 dollars, the winchester just a bit more, and the McMillan can be purchased ready to go out of the box for about 3500 dollars. I would also be pursuing the .308 Win round, as this is very common, excellent for short to long range sniping, and has a great deal of detailed information about bullet drop, wind drift, and terminal ballistics. This round has more development and history as a light weight (i.e. not a 50 Browning Machine Gun) sniping system than just about any other in the world. It also makes acquiring ammo from various military and law enforcement groups you may work with very easy.
That being said, I would talk to the operating sharpshooters in your department and or others in regards to what they are having luck with.
The 168gr BTHP Match round from Black Hills will most likely be your workhorse ammo as only factory is used for standard police situations, and you will not be engaging targets past 600 yards as a cop, so the 175 grain (M118LR) will not have any ballistic superiority.
Short of punching skyskraper windows (45-70, .338Lapua, .50BMG would be used for this) or body armor, this is the piece of equipment you are after, and most likely would shoot. You basically want to build a modern version of a B51 "Kate". A match grade barrel, a free floated stock with pillar bedding, lapping the bolt and barrel, and a good quality trigger pretty much handles this with the exception of optics. A variation of the "Kate" is the most likely operational weapon you will use.

why is a savage not suitable for urban precision shooting? I bought my Savage 10fp from a large metropolitan area's police department, it was one of their sniper rifles for many years until they upgraded to a new platform. I got it for a steal, 600 dollars for the action in outstanding condition, bedded in a B&C medalist stock, plus rings and mount. I would put the savage action right up there with all the others for out of box accuracy, if not better than the m70's and Remingtons. My only beef with it is the tough bolt, it's a little sticky on the lift.

Re: 110E

Ondori said:

The remington can be built to sniper standards with around 2500 dollars, the winchester just a bit more, and the McMillan can be purchased ready to go out of the box for about 3500 dollars.

I can build a Savage that will shoot lights out all day every day for $1,500 or less sans scope.

Re: 110E

Ondori said:

I have done a great deal of long range shooting, and while I am not a LEO sharpshooter, I would not entertain using this rifle for urban sniping.

I'm interested in hearing your reasoning for this statement...

i'm thinkin you might want to go with what the industry standard is for
police snipers. i don't know much about law enforcement snipers but i
did have a friend who was a sheriffs department sniper. he told me that
most shots will be within 150 yards. 200 at the most. he could hit stuff
out to 900 yards but that is not what he trained for or what his job
required. however, he could set up an empty 308 shell at 150 yards
and hit it with his rem 700 more often than not. theres a lot to learn
with that stuff. like hitting targets that don't stand still. or what a bullet
does when it goes through glass. these are not shots you couldn't pull
off with a ruger 10/22 with a few mods. but thats of course not an option.
i guess what i'm saying is getting wooded up about a rifle you have and
wanting to use it for police sniper (real life situations) applications may
not be the best/smartest choice. i don't know what their training is like
but in real life situations you will need the best, agreeable rifle you can
get your hands on. its all about the stacked deck. you will need everything
(in regards to that rifle) in your favor. anything else would be negligence.

replies

To Lonewolf: Without rechambering I would not personally feel this is a suitable rifle. It is a lot less common of a cartridge amongst military and police groups, and has a more intense recoil than the .308. The savage is a personal feeling, I have had a great deal of better experience with long term function, out of the box accuracy, and company support from Rem Win and McMillan. That being said, anyone with any shooting experience knows that even an old 22 mag can do some serious killing, but police work is also about reducing liabilities from what I have heard from cops and what I have read from their writings. When I said that I would not entertain it, it was a personal opinion.

To oneeyedmac: I have heard a number of people speak great things about savages. I know they can be made sub MOA with less money. In my personal opinion and experience, I have had greater results out of the other companies in regards to long range shooting and have a greater trust in thier reliability. Other men feel differently. This is why I offered what I did as an opinion and made sure to say that perhaps the best people to talk to would be operating LEO Sharpshooters and Countersnipers.

To DeathStick: I did not say it was not suitable, I said that I would not entertain its use. I have not had better out of the box accuracy from the savages I have bought than Remingtons, though I have bought two Model 70's that I was not pleased with out of the box. I have tried to like the savage rifle as the cost is substantially less, but am not pleased with its fit and finish, and from what I have seen in the field does not perform as well. I am also aware that every rifle is its own beast, and I have known of one or two men to truly love the savage rifle. I did not intend to offend savage rifle lovers, I just personally find it a sub-par firearm.