What kind of oil goes in the transmission of a Troy

Can someone tell me which gear oil and the brands they are putting in there Troy Bilt? I see some in the stores are 80-90 weight and some 85-140 weight. I was also told not to use a certain gear oil because it might corrode the brass gears and copper bushings. Is a GL1 the only oil to use as I did not see any at my local store today and theirss was saying EP oil.

This is what I use.
Joe

That looks good.....wish I had a gallon of that from ya...I can not find this in my local stores here.:crybaby:

In my opinion;Save your money on the fancy labels,numbers&letters.Typical farm brand type 80-90 gear lube has served me well on all my horses and other equipment for alot of years.I think the key here is to not wait till the color & smell of the lube has gone bad before you check/change it.

I too read about not using the GL-5 due to the bronze bushings, I can't find it anything other than GL-5 anywhere local. I even stopped at local place that services Troybilts and asked them, they said they have not heard that and supposedly not had a problem with using GL-5.
If you have a leak, the 140 may help. I've even read some guys use a 00 oil for leaks since it's real heavy, the same shop I stopped at told me they use it for leaky machines also.

I too read about not using the GL-5 due to the bronze bushings, I can't find it anything other than GL-5 anywhere local. I even stopped at local place that services Troybilts and asked them, they said they have not heard that and supposedly not had a problem with using GL-5.
If you have a leak, the 140 may help. I've even read some guys use a 00 oil for leaks since it's real heavy, the same shop I stopped at told me they use it for leaky machines also.

Sounds like a Troy Bilt repair shop I never would visit if they do not even know what oil is good or not. Maybe they want your Troy Bilt bronze to melt so they can make more money putting in new ones or selling new Tillers. hahahahahahah

Sounds like a Troy Bilt repair shop I never would visit if they do not even know what oil is good or not. Maybe they want your Troy Bilt bronze to melt so they can make more money putting in new ones or selling new Tillers. hahahahahahah

I mentioned the GL-1 rated stuff and the one guy said, "yea, we used to carry quarts of tiller specific gear lube, but we just use the stuff we have on the shelf. We have some 00 lube some guys use is they have leaky seals"
Don't worry, I work on my own equipment, but they had the axle seals I needed :thThumbsU

So, from what the thread with Troybilt Fanatic statements, doesn't matter of GL rating just as long as it's synthetic???

What stores carry Warren 140W GL-1 Gear oil? I am in Iowa. Thanks, Mark

Re: I wouldn't worry about it

Can someone tell me which gear oil and the brands they are putting in there Troy Bilt? I see some in the stores are 80-90 weight and some 85-140 weight. I was also told not to use a certain gear oil because it might corrode the brass gears and copper bushings. Is a GL1 the only oil to use as I did not see any at my local store today and theirss was saying EP oil.

I don't think you need to worry about it. But if you DO, GL1 90W is easy to find. Just go to a Tractor Suppy Store and by their 90W Ford Tranmission oil. You can also buy non-degergent 40W motor oil and it will be basically the same. GL1 is simply pure mineral oil with no extreme-wear additives and not degergent additives. 40W engine oil is the same viscosity as 90W gear oil - it's just two scales that mean the same thing.

Most name brand GL5 gear oils now adays are supposed to be "yellow metal safe." Subsequently, I use GL5 in most of my farm and power equipment since it gives better wear protection then GL1.

The EP additives in GL5 are what can cause problems in yellow metals like bronze and copper. Especially bronze synchronizer clutches in some auto transmissions. The EP additives can also plug up wet brake linings in certain tractors. So for a few machines - you still need GL1 or GL4.

The Troy Built tiller has no synchros or wet brakes. Just a few bronze washers here and there and you won't live long enough to experience damage from the EP additives in GL5 oil. But like I said, if you're concerned anyway -get some GL4 that has only half the EP additives or GL1 that is supposed to have none. One word of caution. There are no longer any API tests done to verify GL1 IS GL1. The rating is considered obsolete. So anybody can call their oil GL1 and you have to take their word for it.

By the way, NAPA Premium Performance Gear Oil (made by Valvoline) is claimed to be yellow metal safe. It's tri-rated GL3, GL4, and GL5.

Re: One more comment

Can someone tell me which gear oil and the brands they are putting in there Troy Bilt? .

I've got a 1964 Horse and a 1968 Horse and have had both for 40 years. They've been used a lot every year. I've got about 5 acres of close-row crops that I use the Horses to cultivate with between rows. Always had GL5 oil in them and zero problems with the gear drive. Not even any leaks. Tires, belts and engines are a different story. I think the Ariens Rocket was a better tiller - too bad they stopped making them.

My gear box is leaking at the seal, I tightened it up tonight as it seem 1/8 turn loose, but I think I will also replace the existing gear 90w oil with the 140w gl1 oil. Have you found any companies carrying this? Or were you going with the 90w?

Go to the Warren website and contact them and ask for a local supplier.

http://www.warrenoil.com/product_warren_hydr.html

A few years back I ordered 140 oil for my Troy-Bilt through McMaster-Carr. Recently I found the Warren 140 at a local farm/hardware supply store. I just put some of the Warren oil in my Pony and an old Model 2 Roto-ette/Rototiller.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#gear-oil/=gpxwos

These warren oil people sure don't like to help potential customers. I sent them an email 3 days ago about there oil and they do not even send a reply email. :banghead3

Our O'Reileys auto parts carries the GL1 140. They always seem to have a couple of gallons in stock.

Since I use my Horse in the winter time to push snow off the driveway with the blade attachment. I felt it wise to use the multi weight hypoid gear lube. 85/140 synthetic. Not a bit of problems so far. I think I used Valvoline brand???
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