Fram Titanium oil filter vs Ultra

We have data from a professional testing firm, the Fram Ultra/Fram Titanium ( same media, different base plate hole pattern) are the kings of filtration for your automotive engines that are readily available, and ok to use to hold warranty.

At least in the USA because the Magnusen-Moss Warranty Act lets us use this filter while holding warranty. You do not need to run the crap Hyundai filter. I know I had a destroyed Hyundai engine ( because of their chose of soft piston metallurgy ) with one on and they tried to bring it up as an issue and all I said was "I have every legal right to run this filter and you have to honor warranty as it is stated in this law." Nothing was said after that and I received my new Hyundai motor.

Here is the link to THIS test's origin on the Bobs The Oil Guy site.

A Youtube video is in the works for THIS test. Below are links to other tests the author did on Youtube before he can down with BAD covid. The third video is still in the works.

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I wouldn't put a Fram Oil Filter on any car. Fram is the bottom of the barrel.

I wouldn't put a Fram Oil Filter on any car. Fram is the bottom of the barrel.

Their are 5 different quality variations of Fram filters, YOU only see the Yugo version. Fram Ultra and Titanium are one of the top three filters on Bob's The Oil Guy site that has many automotive engineers and lubrication engineers on it. Honda, and GM and others have used fiber end filters for years as OEM filters. The top three Frams have metal endcaps and advanced filtering media. YOU just did not know it. Here we see why the Fram Ultra is king, with data not allowed to most. That's fine, you can go with your uneducated emotional choice from bad data and internet rumor from one tooth hillbillies. When I bought my Kona I drove home and put a Fram Ultra on. They are that good. Some say it IS the top filter on Bob's The Oil Guy site. This test gives data to the commoners that proves what the experts already knew.

I wouldn't put a Fram Oil Filter on any car. Fram is the bottom of the barrel.

I've felt the same as you for 40+ years.
When a manufacture keeps doing the same poor job of design/manufacturing for decades I add them to my "DO NOT BUY" list.
I was hoping hyundai wouldn't be added to my list, oh well moving on.

Here's my short list of never buy.
ALL GM products.
..New 1974 Pontiac GTO pos too many issues to list
..New 1996 Cadillac Catera pos too many issues to list
..New 1983 chevy S10 blazer pos too many issues to list
Fram oil filters
..anybody remember the ones with a teflon additive in them
Hyundai
..has made the list because of a decades long problem with defective engines
..dying burning electric cars.

Advanced Auto Parts currently has some oil change specials. I picked up some Fram synthetic oil and the Fram titanium filter for $31. Looks like it has better flow than the Fram ultra filter.

The oil also meets the latest ILSAC GF-6A. API SP specs. The bootle looks like it may be made by Warren...who also makes Supertech synthetic oil and Costco's Kirkland synthetic oil which has been performing very well in my SF.

Anybody know who makes this oil for Fram?

The gentleman at BITOG believe it to be from Warren Distributing.

The gentleman at BITOG believe it to be from Warren Distributing. View attachment 468798

Yes. I was just looking at that post...and they noticed that on the bottles of trans fluid that it was produced by Amalie. From what I have gathered so far, no one has been able to confirm where it's from yet.

Also, I did notice that AOC was stamped on the bottom of the jug.

I would not use a FRAM oil filter on any vehicle I owned........ I have seen how most Fram oil filters are made and the filter for the most part is not a quality-built filter. Whoever manufactures the Fram filters for Fram are manufactured at the lowest possible cost and do not use the proper components/manufacturing methods that an OEM will use.

Such as in some case the belleville washer that holds the media in place is either missing and or not of the proper material. The filter media may not be of the same dirt holding capacity as the factory spec requires. The mating plate that seals against the engine may not have the proper number of holes/ or spacing and size of hole. Also, in some case the filter can maybe of thinner material thus leading to a failed filter oil can if filter plugs. The filter by-pass valve may or may not be present in the filter, in case of filter plugging.

Even in your photo the top plate holes for the filter do not look to be uniformed or properly stamp into the plate.

I am just saying this is what I have seen over years in hydraulic designing and in articles about different filters being manufactured by aftermarket groups.

I would not use a FRAM oil filter on any vehicle I owned........ I have seen how most Fram oil filters are made and the filter for the most part is not a quality-built filter. Whoever manufactures the Fram filters for Fram are manufactured at the lowest possible cost and do not use the proper components/manufacturing methods that an OEM will use.

Such as in some case the belleville washer that holds the media in place is either missing and or not of the proper material. The filter media may not be of the same dirt holding capacity as the factory spec requires. The mating plate that seals against the engine may not have the proper number of holes/ or spacing and size of hole. Also, in some case the filter can maybe of thinner material thus leading to a failed filter oil can if filter plugs. The filter by-pass valve may or may not be present in the filter, in case of filter plugging.

Even in your photo the top plate holes for the filter do not look to be uniformed or properly stamp into the plate.

I am just saying this is what I have seen over years in hydraulic designing and in articles about different filters being manufactured by aftermarket groups.

That may be true for the Fram filters in the orange can, but the Fram Ultra and Titanium are pretty good filters with good build quality.These filters are way better than stock. Synthetic media. Better flow and filtering capability. The holes stamped in the plate are larger to allow for better flow.

I also have proof that my current setup (Kirkland synthetic, Fram Ultra filter) is working pretty well with my latest UOA report.
Oil Analysis: 2020 Santa Fe 2.0T AWD

Member Cumminsfan would have been a little more believeable, if he at-least knew who owns and who makes the Fram Titanium oil filter currenty. He admitedly acknowledged he doesn't know, so take his opinions with a grain of salt. Cumminsfan also doesn't own-up as-to-when he last eye-witnessed construction of any Fram filters either.

Some members here are aware that Trico Group purchased Fram in 2019 - then evloved itself into First Brand Group, which is huge in the oil filter business.There's never been another corporation as big as First Brand, manufacturing so many brand names of oil filters.

So in order to get that huge, they obviously know what they're doing and obviously very good at putting the filters together. Even the Purolator brand name, known for years as jokingly named Tearolator, now manufacture oil filter media that lasts, instead of tears..

Member Cumminsfan would have been a little more believeable, if he at-least knew who owns and who makes the Fram Titanium oil filter currenty. He admitedly acknowledged he doesn't know, so take his opinions with a grain of salt. Cumminsfan also doesn't own-up as-to-when he last eye-witnessed construction of any Fram filters either.

Some members here are aware that Trico Group purchased Fram in 2019 - then evloved itself into First Brand Group, which is huge in the oil filter business.There's never been another corporation as big as First Brand, manufacturing so many brand names of oil filters.

So in order to get that huge, they obviously know what they're doing and obviously very good at putting the filters together. Even the Purolator brand name, known for years as jokingly named Tearolator, now manufacture oil filter media that lasts, instead of tears..

I have over 40 years in design of heavy earthmoving equipment with my last 20 years in hydraulics. The only oil filters we would even consider for use on engines were the following brands, not necessary in order of preference. Caterpillar, Donaldson, Baldwin, Fleetguard and Paul filters. All others filters failed in our performance tests of filtering capability (dirt holding capacity) media construction, can construction, no belleville washer (using a spring instead/plastic) or no washer at all, failed bypass valve and inferior top plate design such as hole spacing, number and size of holes and shapes of the holes. There is more in filter design other than marketing and buying companies.

Believe what you like it is your dime and engine at risk, NOT MINE.

Fram makes excellent oil filters. Like anyone with the most market share, they will have more complainers. Most don't understand filter construction at all so all those cut open filter videos and websites are all but useless. And this part number was introduced for Hyundai/Kia in place of the one size fits all 3593a.
Remember, HyundaiKia have been blaming filters for years. Were they covering up for their defective engines? Have we learned anything for all those recalls and class action lawsuits yet? Obviously, I don't see aftermarket filters as an issue.

Great oil and filter but I'd use a 5w40 with the 2.0T. GF6/SP is a game changer. All oils with that specification have more additives to meet the chain wear tests(something ignored by all for too many decades). I just prefer the primary lubricant, motor oil film thickness, over relying on additives, for the protection.

The dexos license for that oil is definitely Amalie. The API spec shows also Phillips66. Looks like Amalie bottles numerous oils brand with those licenses. Blend might be something formulated by Philips66 and licensed to a bottler. Not every brand can run thru the blend gauntlet with R&D testing. It is easier to buy an approved formula license and blend to it.

Should contact store for MSDS info too. Couldn't find any but might shed more info on the blender or formula.