11-18-2021, 11:58 AM | #1 |
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Drives: BMW 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Twin Cities | CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT 06 PLUS INITIAL IMPRESSIONS ON 2022 X3 M40i I thought I’d share a few first impressions of the Continental Extreme Contact 06 Plus All Season Non Run Flat tires that I recently had BMW install on my 2022 X3 M40i 699M 20 inch wheels- 2 weeks ago. There aren’t too many reviews of the new DWS 06 Plus Tires on a 2022 X3 M40i running 20” 699M wheels (yet) so this review is for all those with this configuration. Most online reviews of this tire come from people driving 2021 M40i’s but in my opinion the 2022 M40i has a softer suspension setup than last years model. * I’ve put 1,200 miles on these tires and driven on them in all conditions except snow. They’re inflated to 32/35. COMFORT: ALENZA WINS HANDLING: ALENZA WINS RAIN / WATER: ALENZA WINS SNOW / ICE: TBD DURABILITY: 10/32 of starting tread That it for now until the snow flies Attached Images
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11-18-2021, 01:18 PM | #2 |
New Member Drives: 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Austin, TX | Really interesting and valuable post! I have the exact same wheel/tire configuration on my LCI M40i and have been looking at the Conti DWS06 as well as the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4s but now I'm wondering if I should just stick with the Alenzas... __________________ My Garage |
11-18-2021, 01:50 PM | #3 |
First Lieutenant
Drives: BMW 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Twin Cities | Thanks CJ! Should be interesting to hear from others who go the DWS 06 Plus direction on the 2022 X3/4 M40i. __________________ 2022 X3 M40i Phytonic Blue / Cognac Leather |
11-18-2021, 02:00 PM | #4 |
New Member Drives: 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: CT, USA | Thanks for sharing. I just did this swap today. I've only done one drive but the DWS seem to be much more cushy. I didn't mind the Alenzas but winter is coming... |
11-18-2021, 02:14 PM | #5 |
New Member Drives: 2021 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Upstate New York, USA | I have the exact same set-up being installed next week on my 21' M40i staggered 699M wheels |
11-18-2021, 02:16 PM | #6 |
Brigadier General Drives: 2021 X3 M40i, 1974 2002 Tii Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Greenville, SC | I've had mine since late last week and will also disagree with Jen and say that the Conti's are definitely a softer, more comfortable tire than the Alenza's that came from the factory. They are definitely quieter as well. It's been less than a week so have not had a chance to push the handling aspect as I'm waiting for treads to break-in a bit before pushing them. __________________ 2021 X3
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11-18-2021, 02:25 PM | #7 |
Captain Drives: 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: CA | Very interesting. I'm actually in the minority that I like the RFT Alenzas. The only con I think is that they are noisy (I'm not sure if it is only the tires but they probably contribute). I'm also someone who prefers stiff to squishy, which most people don't. In my old 328i, I changed the RFTs to Michelin All seasons and it was softer no doubt, but seemed wobbly in corners. So still considering a change to non RFTs when the time comes but not totally sure. Also recently some fine folks tried to carjack a friend's Model Y using nails - he drove away with a flat tire basically on rims and ended up with quite a bit of damage/repair. The RFT would be super handy in a situation like that. |
11-18-2021, 02:30 PM | #8 |
Jumping Jack Flash Drives: 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: California (east of Sacramento) | Quote: Originally Posted by sbt007 Very interesting. I'm actually in the minority that I like the RFT Alenzas. The only con I think is that they are noisy (I'm not sure if it is only the tires but they probably contribute). I like my Alenzas too, which surprised me. I haven't noticed any noise, but I have quite elderly ears. Strangely though I can hear all the other out-of-the-ordinary car noises that occur when something is not right. __________________ 2021 X3 M40i: M Sport Differential,
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11-18-2021, 02:31 PM | #9 |
Lieutenant Drives: '19 X3 M40i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA | Interesting... I'm just a few weeks in at this point, but the DWS06+ on my 2019 M40i are significantly less jittery and harsh, tho did I lose some of the crisp urgent turn-in of the Alenzas. The real kicker tho is the Alenzas amplified and jumped off of every minor road imperfection - of which we have a lot - to the extent that the ride was constantly nervous and just totally obnoxious. Very happy to have them gone. Intentionally chose the Conti over Michelin AS as the AS3+ I had on my 330 were also pretty harsh around here and reviews for the AS4 suggest they're just as stiff (they handled insanely well tho). X3 needed something softer. I'm curious as to what's changed in the '21/22's from a spring rates, damping rates, sways, and geometry perspective tho. BMW got it pretty wrong on the earlier versions, imo (unless you live near velvety-smooth roads)... I'd wager there's significantly more small-bump compliance built in now. Bigger body motion has never been a problem, it's the little fidgety stuff that sucks. __________________ 2019 X3M40i DGM/black vernasca, 2T4, 2VF, ZPX, ZPP, ZDA, DWS06+, etc, etc. Since July'19. Last edited by prototyp; 11-18-2021 at 02:39 PM.. |
11-18-2021, 03:41 PM | #10 |
How YOU Doin? Drives: 2022 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Philly 'burbs | Interesting. I felt that the DWSs made the ride less harsh. Although, I did make the switch when it was still 70 degrees for the high. So, maybe that had something to do with it. Didn't drive in any heavy rain in the Alenzas, but I did take a 300-mile road trip with the DWSs in the pouring rain. I was driving 70-80 the whole way and never once hydroplaned. |
11-18-2021, 03:43 PM | #11 |
Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: SL,UT | prototyp, the tramlining of the Alenza's annoy me since the roads here in Utah are horrible for it. So definitely curious to hear if the Conti's, or other AS non RF, are less susceptible to it. I'd be more than willing to give up a tenth in handling to not have tramlining. |
11-18-2021, 03:48 PM | #12 |
How YOU Doin? Drives: 2022 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Philly 'burbs | Quote: Originally Posted by nord1899 prototyp, the tramlining of the Alenza's annoy me since the roads here in Utah are horrible for it. So definitely curious to hear if the Conti's, or other AS non RF, are less susceptible to it. I'd be more than willing to give up a tenth in handling to not have tramlining. Haven't tramlined in the DWSs ever. I've got about 1,200 miles on them now. Never tramlined in the Alenzas either, though |
11-18-2021, 03:48 PM | #13 |
Brigadier General Drives: 2022 X4 M40i, 2008 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MKE | I really enjoyed having my NON-RFT alenzas (now on snow tires). I mean, all season tires are trying to be a jack of all trades, so it makes sense that summer tires handle better. Summer tires with their large grooves are much better at preventing hydroplaning than all seasons with mixed grooves and sipes. __________________ Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived... Mmhm.
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11-18-2021, 04:02 PM | #14 |
Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW X3M40i Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Cary, NC | I have just purchased a 22 X3 M40i. I have a 16 Porsche Macan S that I run Sumitome tires on. They are high performance AS. If I replace the RF, I will put these tires back on. Macan came with Pirelli Scorpions. I did not notice any decrease in performance with these Sumotomo tires. Attached Images
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11-18-2021, 04:18 PM | #15 |
Registered Drives: 2022 X3 M40i, 18� Mstng GT CV Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Michigan | I love this topic. My 2022 X3 M40i is in quality check, so it should be here “soon”. Here is Michigan and I had to order with the 699m high perf tires, so I’m debating swapping tires or getting a full fledged wheel / tire set. Reading this thread makes me lean toward saving money and just getting tires. |
11-18-2021, 04:24 PM | #16 |
Lieutenant Drives: '19 X3 M40i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA | Quote: Originally Posted by nord1899 prototyp, the tramlining of the Alenza's annoy me since the roads here in Utah are horrible for it. So definitely curious to hear if the Conti's, or other AS non RF, are less susceptible to it. I'd be more than willing to give up a tenth in handling to not have tramlining. Noticed much less tramlining, tho conditions are likely different from near you... Surely the tire's sidewall stiffness is a big contributor, as is tread pattern, tho some of it is down to alignment & steering geometry. We've got some lanes with more-or-less longitudinal troughs, cracks, and differences in pavement height thanks to expansive clay under the roadbed and many sycamore trees. The Alenzas wandered all over them, Conti's not so much. There are some grooved concrete freeway sections in the region that are a bit of a handful, but I've not been over them since swapping to the Continentals. It's the track-day sharpness of the Alenzas that makes them so responsive which also makes them ... too responsive. Haven't been out hammering some winding roads yet to assess subjectively how much responsiveness got lost going to the softer DWS, but the gain in daily real-world drivability is significant enough that it's not even a debate. (There's also presumably more range for tire pressures to play with on non-RFT; higher for more crispness, lower for comfort) __________________ 2019 X3M40i DGM/black vernasca, 2T4, 2VF, ZPX, ZPP, ZDA, DWS06+, etc, etc. Since July'19. Last edited by prototyp; 11-18-2021 at 04:41 PM.. |
11-18-2021, 08:33 PM | #17 |
Private First Class Drives: X4 M40i, JGC, RX330 Join Date: May 2021 Location: Colorado | Quote: Originally Posted by Jen4BMW RAIN / WATER: ALENZA WINS That it for now until the snow flies Thanks for the review. Can't wait to see your review of snow handling. Why? The reviews on Tire Rack were so impressive; however, on my Audi A4 Quattro, I was extremely disappointed with the DWS (not the +) and how it handled the snow in Colorado; additionally, my impression of the overall ride was that the tire felt ... for lack of a better word, squishy. And, thus, I replaced the Alenza and put the Pilot AS4 on my '22 X4 M40i. Super curious of your experience and hope you will report back when the snow starts flying in MN. |
11-18-2021, 08:54 PM | #18 |
Major Drives: 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NJ | Awe crap Jen, I just order these with BBS black rims from Tire Rack. I was going to order pilot sport all seasons, but they are back ordered further out than the Conti’s. I actually love how the Alenza’s ride and handle. I was forced to drive in 30 degree weather yesterday and zero issues. Attached Images
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11-18-2021, 09:37 PM | #19 |
New Member Drives: 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: White Plains, NY | I just swapped out my alenza run flats for the michelin pilot 4 AS and i def think they are a bit more comfy then the alenza's but thats my opinion. for anyone who live in the NYC area and loves the alenza's a have a set w/ only 120 miles them for sale!! |
11-18-2021, 10:07 PM | #20 |
First Lieutenant
Drives: BMW 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Twin Cities | Quote: Originally Posted by kscarrol I've had mine since late last week and will also disagree with Jen and say that the Conti's are definitely a softer, more comfortable tire than the Alenza's that came from the factory. They are definitely quieter as well. It's been less than a week so have not had a chance to push the handling aspect as I'm waiting for treads to break-in a bit before pushing them. In all probability the DWS tires probably are technically softer tires. No argument here. They just seem bouncier and a bit more jittery on rough roads versus the Alenza�s but there�s not a vast difference. I can see how you could disagree with my review. The differences are not night and day. __________________ 2022 X3 M40i Phytonic Blue / Cognac Leather |
11-18-2021, 10:23 PM | #21 |
Brigadier General Drives: 2021 X3 M40i, 1974 2002 Tii Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Greenville, SC | Quote: Originally Posted by Jen4BMW In all probability the DWS tires probably are technically softer tires. No argument here. They just seem bouncier and a bit more jittery on rough roads versus the Alenza’s but there’s not a vast difference. I can see how you could disagree with my review. The differences are not night and day. Agreed, this is the proverbial "butt dyno" at work! The feeling is really subjective. This is also a function of the suspension setting we choose so folks will have different experiences/perceptions. Roads here in NOLA are awful, built on old swamp land. The firmness of the RF Alenza was just too harsh for me. __________________ 2021 X3 M40i |
11-18-2021, 10:24 PM | #22 |
First Lieutenant
Drives: BMW 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Twin Cities | Quote: Originally Posted by M40i4me Awe crap Jen, I just order these with BBS black rims from Tire Rack. I was going to order pilot sport all seasons, but they are back ordered further out than the Conti’s. I actually love how the Alenza’s ride and handle. I was forced to drive in 30 degree weather yesterday and zero issues. M40i guy- I love those black wheels you picked out! Seriously these Conti’s are not bad tires. I’d say they Conti’s are more responsive than the Alenza’s and for all I know brake better and can pull more G’s. They track great on the highway and they’re quit. They’ll definitely out last the Alenza’s by a mile. You might love the Conti’s I just think the casual city driving comfort factor seems a bit more nervous than the Alenza. There no way I’d called these Conti’s soft though on this 2022 M40i. I had a 2021 loaner X7 when I did my tire swap to these Conti’s which wore Conti contacts and that ride was cushy soft to a fault. __________________ 2022 X3 M40i Phytonic Blue / Cognac Leather Last edited by Jen4BMW; 11-18-2021 at 10:31 PM.. |