My neighbor doesn T cut his grass

O.P.

I would have to say that at least 60% of residents in my suburb do not mow their lawn. At all. Never. Most of them are at about waist height.

Do you have to mow your footpath? Is there any way council can force them to at least mow the footpath? I've tried asking a few of my neighbours nicely about it but I generally get a "I speaka non english". It makes my suburb look like an eyesore.

LoM writes...

Do you have to mow your footpath?

No, it is Council land.

You could always mow it for them when you find yourself with nothing to do.

O.P.

Viper14311 writes...

You could always mow it for them when you find yourself with nothing to do.

Spose I could do their dishes while im there too?

LoM writes...

It makes my suburb look like an eyesore.

offer to mow their lawns for them if it hurts yr eyes so much :)

LoM writes...

Most of them are at about waist height.

I know my council will send you a warning if your grass gets more than two inches high during summer as it is a fire risk. Check to see if your local council has a similar policy.

LoM writes...

Spose I could do their dishes while im there too?

If their dishes are annoying you too, sure. I assumed it was only the grass though..

i think you can file a complaint to your local council and they will give them out a warning or something.

O.P.

Just found this on my councils website

Queries relating to grass cutting of naturestrips or reserves
Grass cutting of naturestrips in front of residential properties is the responsibility of the owner not Council.
Council's Parks department is responsible for grass cutting of Active Sports Reserves, Local Reserves, Walkways, Creek Reserves, High Profile Road Reserves, District Centres, (Facility Surrounds eg: Child Care Centres, Kinders, Pre-Schools), Undeveloped Urban Reserve, Undeveloped Rural Reserve, Cemeteries, Special Reserves, and Rural Roadside Maintenance. For queries relating to any of these please contact Customer Service on 9205 2200.

http://www.hume.vic.gov.au/Page/page.asp?Page_Id=234&h=0#BM983

Sorry Fred

Go to bunnings and invest in some round up =D

is on special at the moment – real cheap too!

O.P.

Ben91 writes...

Go to bunnings and invest in some round up =D

is on special at the moment – real cheap too!

:)

Not a bad idea.

would like to tell them where to shop, what car to buy, what colour to paint their house as well?

You seem to like pushing your ideals onto others rather than minding your own business.

Just because you like a nice tidy lawn, doesn't mean they like a nice tidy lawn.

If it bugs you that much move to a suburb where people like nicely mown lawns, otherwise ...

I'm sure that people who say suck it up are the same lazy bogan type that never mow their lawns.

O.P.

Hank Hill writes...

I'm sure that people who say suck it up are the same lazy bogan type that never mow their lawns.

They are mostly not bogans, they are hard working immigrants from India and the MIddle East. Go figure.

Ours is a bogan family. Haven't cut their grass in four years. I'm sick of looking at that crap!!

LoM writes...

Just found this on my councils website

Grass cutting of naturestrips in front of residential properties is the responsibility of the owner not Council.

Well when they come and do my dishes i'll mow their nature strip for them.

So your that type who don't mow the nature strip?
I've always wondered what runs through their minds why they dont cut their nature strip.
What a crap excuse and an illegal one too.

It gets mowed. Still think they should do it, if they expect me to use my time and money to look after it for them yet would be happy to turn up and fine me if i ever dared park my car on -their- nature strip.

Chances are that as many are immigrants, mowing lawns is a foreign (no pun intended) concept. This may be reinforced by other immigrants not mowing, it just seems normal to them.

Maybe they don't even own a mower.

Have you considered approaching people in your suburb who do mow, and perhaps feel the same way as yourself, to have a working bee one weekend and go and mow some of these yards. It could make for good relations with these New Australians, and you never know you may all get invited to one of their cultural feasts or something.

Hmm interesting question, if you can't afford a mower will the council be nice enough to lend you one so you can mow their nature strip ? If you don't have a lawn except for the nature strip i think it's a bit rude to expect someone to buy a mower, which arn't cheap, just to do their naturestrip for them.

O.P.

Ned Seagoon writes...

Have you considered approaching people in your suburb who do mow, and perhaps feel the same way as yourself, to have a working bee one weekend and go and mow some of these yards. It could make for good relations with these New Australians, and you never know you may all get invited to one of their cultural feasts or something.

I don't want to give the impression that they are the enemy or anything, in fact I get on with them all quiet well. I sometimes have them over for BBQs etc, well a few of them, the others don't come when invited :)

Your idea isn't a bad one though. To be honest I don't want to be doing other peoples lawns on my weekends, but maybe doing it a few times would kind of embarrass them into doing it themselves.

LoM writes...

Spose I could do their dishes while im there too?

We need more people like you!

Can you do mine afterwards.

LoM writes...

I would have to say that at least 60% of residents in my suburb do not mow their lawn. At all. Never. Most of them are at about waist height.

I always say that the external appearance of a property will generally be a reflection of the cleanliness of inside of the property....several friends in real estate strongly agree

So if your neighbours grass is waist high, odds are the inside of their homes are equally unkempt....in other words, they are slobs and see no issue with letting the lawns get overgrown & unsightly.

( I get a guy to mow my lawns every 3 weeks – only $20 + he trims the lawn edges etc. and takes away the garden waste )

LoM writes...

I would have to say that at least 60% of residents in my suburb do not mow their lawn.

Do you have to mow your footpath?

Is it their lawn or their nature strip (that is what we south Aussies call the strip between the footpath and the road) that they are not mowing?

You could ring your council and report seeing a snake sliding through their uncut grass.........

batjac writes...

...in other words, they are slobs and see no issue with letting the lawns get overgrown & unsightly.

or they hate doing one of most tedious domestic tasks that exists :)

OP: have you considered releasing wild goats into and around your neighbourhood? they breed rapidly and will just wander around grazing keeping the neighbours' grass at an acceptable level...

O.P.

System Flash writes...

Is it their lawn or their nature strip (that is what we south Aussies call the strip between the footpath and the road) that they are not mowing?

Both

LoM writes...

Do you have to mow your footpath?

My concrete has never grown that high that I've had to worry about it ;-)

The nature strip though, now that's a different story. The bloody thing grows that quick that it almost needs doing again by the time I've finished!

Honestly though, I don't see nature strip maintenance as a "have to" issue. If I don't mow it it looks shithouse and makes the house look bad, so I'm happy to do it. And let's be honest...it takes 5 minutes to mow. Not exactly a major imposition.

O.P.

Viper14311 writes...

It gets mowed. Still think they should do it, if they expect me to use my time and money to look after it for them yet would be happy to turn up and fine me if i ever dared park my car on -their- nature strip.

In that case, it would only be fair then that council charge you a monthly rental fee for using their land to run services into your house, including water, power, telephone, gas. I think to rent that amount of land from them should cost you $500/month.

LoM writes...

I generally get a "I speaka non english"

Hahah.. Welcome to the NEW Australia! It's been sliding downhill for over 20 years. Australia was not the country I once loved, hence the reason why I now live abroad in Brasil. Australia disgusts me, completely. I'd rather witness the poverty and crime here, than tolerate the mudslide that Australia has and is becoming.

There was once (upon) a time, when Australian men took pride in their house and land. In unison, they'd awaken on a Sunday morning and rip their Victor mowers into their inch high grass, then manicure the hedges until lunch, before launching into a feast of sausages and VB. They were the good ol days!

Now Australian men are usually too fat and lazy, or just don't give a stuff. There's no pride anymore, and they're usually too busy surfing the net or staying back at work so they can pay for their $700K mortgage on a house that's, in reality, only work $200K at best. Inflation, longer working hours, and pure laziness (spending too much time on the internet) is the major reason.

Before the internet, we didn't have much to waste our spare time with, so we soaped up the Holden, and washed her liberally in the driveway after mowing the lawns and mending the fences. I'm not being sarcastic here, because those times were fun. Life in the pre-internet age had more meaning than it does now.

I love Brasil, because people actually participate in life, and not sit at home with their beer bellies alongside with their cellulite-infested spouses watching TV on their new BR player etc.

Carpe Diem

what if a new neighbour moved in next to you and said i hate the colour green and grass

can you please pave over your grass?

O.P.

Mage Of Dragons writes...

what if a new neighbour moved in next to you and said i hate the colour green and grass

can you please pave over your grass?

I'd probably head but him. Then go have a beer.

EDIT: Im joking, for the pretentious among us.

Viper14311 writes...

Hmm interesting question, if you can't afford a mower will the council be nice enough to lend you one so you can mow their nature strip ? If you don't have a lawn except for the nature strip i think it's a bit rude to expect someone to buy a mower, which arn't cheap, just to do their naturestrip for them.

No, the council won't loan you one, but you can tear your lard from the sofa and whip down to the local servo and rent one for the afternoon. $20 or so...how much do you waste on mobile calls a month when the house phone is usually just in the other room, or just out of arms reach? Bloody 'Norms'.

Your suburb is a very environmentally friendly suburb! No extra emissions from mowing lawns and I believe the longer grass takes more carbon from the atmosphere. They should be commended for their green attitudes!

batjac writes...

I always say that the external appearance of a property will generally be a reflection of the cleanliness of inside of the property

That is probably true of most Australians, but not always so for those from other countries. Culture come into this.

In some places it never rains enough for the grass to grow, in others the goat keep the grass short.

Ever been to Italy? Compare the outside of the houses to the inside, the outside of many Italian houses is very drab, and many do not care for their yards, however the insides are often immaculate with very colourful decorations. It all comes down to the culture that people grow up in as to how they behave.

Many New Australians are keen to become proper Australians, after-all they chose this country, some just need a little assistance with this process.

O.P.

Ned Seagoon writes...

That is probably true of most Australians, but not always so for those from other countries. Culture come into this.

True, I know an Egyptian family who are friends of ours, and the outside of their house is a messy jungle, but the inside is spotless and very nice.

Tilikum writes...

how much do you waste on mobile calls a month when the house phone is usually just in the other room

None. I only have the mobile for emergencies. Rarely use the house phone either =/
Will they loan me a car to pick up the mower? Being on a pension i'm not exactly rich.

LoM writes...

In that case, it would only be fair then that council charge you a monthly rental fee for using their land to run services into your house, including water, power, telephone, gas.

They do, unless i'm the only one here paying council rates (well the house owner anyway) ?

O.P.

Viper14311 writes...

They do, unless i'm the only one here paying council rates (well the house owner anyway) ?

The rates are subsidised / reduced based on the understanding that mowing the nature strip is your responsibility. Well it seems thats how it is it my council anyway.

Im sure that if it was the councils responsiblity to mow the nature strip outside of residential properties, then our rates would be much higher

EDIT: In other words, we'll let you rent our land to run your services and we will provide it at well below market price, on the understanding that mowing the nature strip is your responsibility

A few cars up on bricks will cover up that long grass ;)

Franco Cozzo writes...

or they hate doing one of most tedious domestic tasks that exists :)

Nah, mowing is a real buzz – the noise, the petrol, the exhaust fumes – just pretend you are at Bathurst whilst you inhale the atmosphere.

Tedious domestic tasks ? vacuuming or mopping floors – AAAAGGGGHHHH !!

Wow dude let people do whatever they like as long as it's not a safety issue. We're not a totalitarian society and not about to become one just because your eyes aren't pleased by other people's lawns. Focus on something more important

Hank Hill writes...

So your that type who don't mow the nature strip?

I don't mow mine. I have borrowed plants from council plantings that eg were growing over the footpath, and gotten rid of most of the lawn between my front fence and the road.

It's either native, or already approved by council for road-side planting (because they use it themself). As opposed to kikiyu, cats-eye, bindii, paspalum, introduced rye-grass etc which are all weeds.

Ned Seagoon writes...

Chances are that as many are immigrants, mowing lawns is a foreign (no pun intended) concept.

I had a single pakistani lady living next door to me, this was certainly the case for her and she talked to me about what to buy, how to use it after she saw me mowing my lawn one day.

It's not that hard.

Landholders in India, China, Japan etc have gardens too you know.

Ned Seagoon writes...

Many New Australians are keen to become proper Australians, after-all they chose this country, some just need a little assistance with this process.

I'm sure somehow at sometime they have got a Bunnings or Mitre 10 or Home Hardware catalogue in their mailbox just bursting with lawn mowers, edgers, whipper snippers, weed killer etc. Failing that, there's always local tradies stuffing your mail box with flyers on lawn mowing services every second week....

In some places it never rains enough for the grass to grow, in others the goat keep the grass short.

Again, I'm fairly sure some time after these new Australians arrived here from either the parched Gobi Desert or sun baked Death Valley, they noticed we get rain, otherwise their grass wouldn't reach waist high. As for goats roaming the landscape keeping the undergrowth at bay, maybe on a hillside in Greece, but unlikely to happen in a suburban street in Melb, Syd etc...

Ever been to Italy?

I did once, but it was closed that day :)

That's strange. All the houses along my street have their grass cut? Never seemed to be an issue. My neighbour just decided to kill all their grass. Look's kind of out of place in the neighbourhood but if that's their choice.

Tilikum writes...

I think you need to ask yourself if you really need the pension.

Well if you come up with some miricle to cure my medical problems i'd sure love to hear about it.

Suburb I live in has community association rules, must mow every 2/4 weeks in summer / winter. Silly thing is we all have to pay fir a contractor to mow the nature strip. Surely if we all have to mow our lawns they could have extended that to do nature strip too

LoM writes...

I've tried asking a few of my neighbours nicely about it but I generally get a "I speaka non english". It makes my suburb look like an eyesore.

Are you living in a low income suburb?

You should see the pathway I walk through to the shops. Starting to look like a forest with the way the grass is growing!

O.P.

PogiPinoy writes...

Are you living in a low income suburb?

Yes. Im trying to work my way out!

This being Australia, I’m surprised no one has mentioned a very real danger: snakes. We get lots of snakes in our area and long grass would be perfect for the little critters. OP, maybe mention to your neighbours, “Oh, you know Australia is home to 7 of the 10 most venomous snakes in the world. They love nesting in long grass and breeding lots of little baby snakes. Are you familiar with the word ‘neurotoxin’?”

(if they don't speak English, bring a snake guidebook with pictures along and mime getting bitten and then dying)

It council land so they don't have to but it gives a bad impression to passer-buys on what type of person you are if you refuse to move your lawn.

seriously...more goats

you can even train them to prune

racka writes...

so I'm happy to do it. And let's be honest...it takes 5 minutes to mow. Not exactly a major imposition.

I am on a corner block, the outside is double my own lawn.

My brother's has 3 sides to do, probably 5 times his own lawn.

I need to question, if you got hurt doing the natural strip, who's insurance cover it, your own insurance does not cover the public area.

LoM writes...

Grass cutting of naturestrips in front of residential properties is the responsibility of the owner not Council.

The Council IS the owner.

PS: I do mow the natural strip outside my house, not because I agree is my responsibility, but because my house will look better.

O.P.

LoM writes...

Grass cutting of naturestrips in front of residential properties is the responsibility of the owner not Council.

myace writes...

The Council IS the owner.

They are clearly referring to the owner of the residential property outside which the nature strip is located.

LoM writes...

The rates are subsidised / reduced based on the understanding that mowing the nature strip is your responsibility

So what about people that don't have nature strips? Wouldn't it mean they should be paying more than the person next door that does have one if there really is a discount for maintaining the naturestrip for the council ?

O.P.

Viper14311 writes...

So what about people that don't have nature strips? Wouldn't it mean they should be paying more than the person next door that does have one if there really is a discount for maintaining the naturestrip for the council ?

I think the fact that your coming up with so many petty arguments and excuses for not wanting to mow your nature strip illustrates the problem.

This is where Australia is headed it seems.

He doesn't. He said he's in Brasil and they don't have nature strips over there.

O.P.

Viper14311 writes...

He doesn't. He said he's in Brasil and they don't have nature strips over there.

Im not sure what your talking about, but I meant do you not like people who do not mow their lawn, because he is clearly an advocate for mowing your lawn despite his current location and lack of nature strip.

If you don't like people who mow their lawn, why is that?

The grass out the front of my place needs to be cut and weeded.

I went out on Tuesday to weed and kept being swooped by some nesting magpies.

Now thats my wife is back from overseas I will have to brave the weather and the wildlife and mow the front area.

I live in a reasonably expensive inner city north west Melbourne suburb.

I have never had to cut my grass in front of my house, as the council comes past once every month or so and does it for us. I think most of the councils in the inner city subs do it for you?

I'm not complaining lol.

O.P.

Daft Vader writes...

Now thats my wife is back from overseas I will have to brave the weather and the wildlife and mow the front area.

I thought you were going to say she can do it :)

Dude, start up at business that sells fake lawns, you'll be rich when they all get em XD

for example : http://www.ddslandscaping.com.au/

and your problem solved ;P

I live in a townhouse and my backyard lawn is so tiny that using a lawn mower just for that little piece of grassland is not cost effective, a lawn mower will take me 30 seconds to finish.

I can buy a hedge trimmer though, half the price, but still that's alot of money just for some grass that no one except myself can see...

plus maintaining the lawn with no weeds require either weed and feed stuff or manually pull them out. second choice will mean I get to stay in the backyard more than the house. First choice will mean that I have to spend money again on something that no one sees.

my best bet is to abandon that piece of shite and put concrete flooring over it XD

O.P.

ChristoShizz writes...

I live in a reasonably expensive inner city north west Melbourne suburb.

I have never had to cut my grass in front of my house, as the council comes past once every month or so and does it for us. I think most of the councils in the inner city subs do it for you?

I'm not complaining lol.

Our council takes the view that they subsidise our rates on the basis that we are responsible for mowing the nature strip.

I think in some councils, where they do it themselves, you pay higher rates for that.

Generally in the higher income suburbs like yours.

Here is another user saying there council say the same (ie give you a discount on your rates for mowing the naturestrip):

http://www.indmowing.com.au/forum/showpost.php?s=f20129002d8b36f462bfc2d90a55ccff&p=48004&postcount=26

I guess it comes down to what council zone you live in. They all seem to be different.

I flat out refuse to mow what passes for a nature strip in front of our place. Heaving a mower around a metre deep tabledrain, that's just off the whiteline in an 80km/h zone is not my idea of fun.

Council can use their slashers and traffic control to do it :P

itouchmypot writes...

Dude, start up at business that sells fake lawns, you'll be rich when they all get em XD

Then you have fun with dealing with all of Council's crap as you have to apply each time you want to work on someones naturestrip as a comercial business. They have already stamped down on everything they can like signs and parking your cars with for sale signs on them.

LoM writes...

I thought you were going to say she can do it :)

She can't get my one pull start lawn mower working.........

Viper14311 writes...

Then you have fun with dealing with all of Council's

bribe them, they become councils because they want to be rich n famous ? Yesh I know, the world is corrupted ....

We don't own a mower. Have been borrowing from my folks. They had planned on buying a new one and passing the oldie to us. Just waiting.

Front and back look disgraceful. Bogan family we are, haha. I'll be grabbing the mower hopefully tomorrow.

Those houses that have waist height grass, do scare me though. Ours is no were near as long, thankfully!

O.P.

:milo: writes...

We don't own a mower. Have been borrowing from my folks. They had planned on buying a new one and passing the oldie to us. Just waiting.

Front and back look disgraceful. Bogan family we are, haha. I'll be grabbing the mower hopefully tomorrow.

Those houses that have waist height grass, do scare me though. Ours is no were near as long, thankfully!

Good on you mate, see not owning one is no excuse, you just borrow one like you do. I used to do that too when I first moved out of home.

Actually I have offered to my neighbours for them to borrow mine once but they said no because they were worried they would break it.

ride on mower? could be fun.

Once a few brownies bite them, they will be out there mowing ;).

Itch¥Bits writes...

Once a few brownies bite them, they will be out there mowing ;).

I was mowing my lawn last week; the neighbours behind me have 20+ trees and never pick up the twigs or leaves. A baby snake (less than 20cm long) suicided with my lawn mower blades. A few years ago I missed a 50cm long snake from the same property.

I mowed my lawns this week for the first time in about a month and half, the time, coupled with all the rain we have had means it was super long :S

The front looked scraggy, and the backyard had bits that were up to my waist, and I have never been so embarrassed or ashamed at my lack of pride in my home however-

The rain made it grow faster than ever before
It rained so much, and for so long that everytime I went to mow it it was too wet
Im in the SES so spent a week doing flood work, and had no energy to mow it
Plus my job got super busy because it was at go live stage

So I had this week off and I mowed it (and I had to mow it 3 times on all different settings it was too high)

My point is, sometimes, and only sometimes life has a way of getting really busy and it comes last on the list, but I was really embarrassed and if anyone had of pointed it out I would have been very ashamed.

Whilst I was mowing it, I noticed next doors nature strip was just as high, so I mowed it too. Why? I had the mower out, and I know she is a single mum with 4 kids, a job and not alot of time, so maybe it would save some time so she didnt have to do it.

If you find it frustrating whilst your mowing yours, go mow theres and score yourself some good karma. If you cant be bothered, enjoy driving up your driveway to the nicest house in the street :D and be proud of your hard work

DAVØ writes...

ride on mower? could be fun.

Like most things – the first three times would be fun, then become "just another chore".

So the council came and hacked up the shrubs I planted on the "nature strip" ( but not blocking the walkway ). Complained and they said it was their land and they could do what they liked.

Neighbours' builders then parked their trucks and dumped gravel all over what was left outside my place. Council said it was not my problem as not on my land.

They expect me to mow it for them ? Eff'em.

What annoys me more are the other new neighbours who grow a crop of noxious weeds and the seeds spread up and down the street.

In my parent's home where I grew up, most homes have no front fence. People keep their lawns trim and mow right to the kerb. Even a couple with front walls mow the nature strip. Would just be frowned upon otherwise.

A few homes like my parent's have council reserve behind. It's looked after by the locals and has always been.

eazytech writes...

I mowed my lawns this week for the first time in about a month and half, the time, coupled with all the rain we have had means it was super long

I try to keep my lawn at a short level then i don't need a catcher i just use the mulcher. But after it rain the grass grows really quick. It is starting to grow already i only cut it last week. Will have to cut it again soon.

To get the best results out of the mulcher you have to cut you lawn weekly. This is what i find.

How do I tell my neighbor to cut the grass?

Your HOA might send a letter to the offending neighbor warning him or her to fix the problem or face fines. Or the HOA might take care of the problem and then bill the homeowner. If your neighbor won't mow his or her lawn, get rid of the junk outside, or let you help tidy up, you can always call your local government.

What happens if lawn is not mowed?

There are practical, financial and legal consequences if you don't mow your lawn as required by local ordinances or homeowners' association covenants. You could be fined. A lien could be placed on your property. In extreme cases, you could be foreclosed on or even go to jail.

How do I separate my neighbors lawn?

A fence can be a great way to separate your yard from your neighbors. It can demark the property lines and more traditional wood plank fences can even give you some more privacy.

How early is too early to mow neighbors?

Knowing Your Neighbors Helps In general, mow after 8 a.m. on weekdays and after 9 a.m. on weekends to avoid annoying your neighbors, a Knight Ridder/Chicago Tribune article recommends from results of a water-cooler survey. Mowing while neighbors prepare for bed at night can be frustrating for them.